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tvbusy 1 hours ago [-]
"Coding is solved", how ironic.
dannyw 27 minutes ago [-]
Great reminder to be using multiple providers (i.e. Anthropic 1P, Bedrock, Vertex AI, Azure) with auto-fallback.
Bedrock has been fine throughout today; just pick two providers and you have much more stable Claude :)
Also, sometimes older models work fine, Opus 4.8/4.6/4.5 are worth trying.
roschdal 7 minutes ago [-]
It's a reminder to never depend of something as flaky as AI on the Internet for your important business processes.
alansaber 30 minutes ago [-]
Yes yes it is key that we vibe code critical infrastructure. I can't wait to see a claude-ism in my next BIOS update.
tcp_handshaker 14 minutes ago [-]
They cant solve the infrastructure problem until Claude is back up....
indrex 1 hours ago [-]
How they go down globally? All regions use the same infra?
Iolaum 19 minutes ago [-]
It was a configuration error ...
nullsanity 26 minutes ago [-]
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vikrantrathore 2 hours ago [-]
Anthropic has constant failure since morning.
cromka 1 hours ago [-]
Anyone can explain why do they fail so often and so seriously? Is this inherent to managing LLMs or is their Ops really just that bad?
ifwinterco 42 minutes ago [-]
Because coding is solved and there’s no need for software engineers any more.
Being charitable to Anthropic though: coding is sort of solved for a very limited definition of “solved”.
Software engineering of huge distributed systems at massive scale is very much not solved, and it seems Anthropic don’t have the human capital to do it particularly well
nixon_why69 18 minutes ago [-]
If we want to be even more charitable to Anthropic, they're going from nothing to hyperscaler in like 3 years. I'm as happy as anyone to dunk on the general bubble situation and people claiming their technology is too dangerous to share, then something like this happens, it's hilarious. But it's still actually hard to build a service with that much usage and every org has had some outages on their way to figure it out.
Recursing 1 hours ago [-]
I think it's because customers don't seem to mind enough to switch.
I really want to support Anthropic because of their commitments to effective altruism, but it's getting harder and harder to justify on technical merits. Sol is just faster, cheaper, and more reliable, and as good as Opus for my use cases
lxgr 41 minutes ago [-]
> I really want to support Anthropic because of their commitments to effective altruism
If you're really committed to the ideas of EA, shouldn't you dispassionately select whatever model works best for you, then make as much money as possible using that and donate it? :)
nullsanity 24 minutes ago [-]
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integricho 55 minutes ago [-]
Do you actually believe in their altruistic goals?
jcfrei 33 minutes ago [-]
I've recently started using codex for most of my coding. Haven't looked back so far: It seems to reason deeper about the code it writes and has much less downtime.
nicce 35 minutes ago [-]
> I really want to support Anthropic because of their commitments to effective altruism
They are doing the opposite while saying the other. Zero trust about that. They are using every malicious playbook tactic these days to increase users and be more profitable and lock-in the users. Even OpenAI feels better these days.
puelocesar 23 minutes ago [-]
I mean, that’s exactly what “effective altruism” is about? Getting filthy rich and powerful no matter the methods and then the vague promise of doing something good?
nicce 2 minutes ago [-]
Not really. They seems to chase IPO so that alone proves that they can’t hold any promise about doing something good. They would need to stay as private company to have any power to do some ”good” in the end.
therein 1 hours ago [-]
> commitments to effective altruism
That's a downside if anything.
eru 42 minutes ago [-]
Different folks have different preferences.
KingMob 34 minutes ago [-]
Yes, some people think effective altruism means helping people here and now as efficiently as possible.
Others think the sheer number of potential sentients in the future justify any amount of suffering tolerated in the here and now.
Notably, people in the latter group never assume THEY will be the ones suffering for the future.
eru 6 minutes ago [-]
> Notably, people in the latter group never assume THEY will be the ones suffering for the future.
What makes you think so? What evidence do you have?
> Yes, some people think effective altruism means helping people here and now as efficiently as possible.
Most effective altruists seem pretty relaxed about the 'here' part, but you are right that the 'now' part receives different answers from different subgroups.
> Others think the sheer number of potential sentients in the future justify any amount of suffering tolerated in the here and now.
There's also the people who care a lot about shrimp. They are less crazy than it seems at first.
vinni2 1 hours ago [-]
Because they can’t keep up with the demand?
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tvbusy 1 hours ago [-]
Struggling with demands is a performance problem, not a reliability problem.
swe_dima 1 hours ago [-]
overly high demand can often put a system in an unstable state
therein 1 hours ago [-]
Only if you're incapable of throttling to assure quality of service. Are you saying they have so much demand that even their load balancers were overloaded?
slopinthebag 50 minutes ago [-]
There is no point having this discussion. Some people have had their brains genuinely broken by Anthropic and will defend them to the last breath, despite having no clue what they are talking about.
ACCount37 37 minutes ago [-]
It is a reliability problem - because if the API ends up rejecting 30% of the incoming queries, no one cares if it's 500 Internal Server Error or 529 Overloaded.
Having your infrastructure at the knife's edge of load to capacity also means you have no redundancy when something fails.
cherioo 29 minutes ago [-]
If this incident had happened during the day I could buy that argument. But it is happening in the dead of the night. Are there really that much people scheduling claude runs over-night, taking more capacity than day-time? (assume most claude users are west coast programmers)
My other guess is they are scheduling training runs and their capacity isolation is bad.
cbg0 39 seconds ago [-]
The world is more than just the Americas.
vasco 38 minutes ago [-]
Clearly they just want to be down all the time. They have the ability to throttle down traffic. I have no clue why they decide to throttle it down just enough to have the worst of both worlds, throttling and incidents. Throttle more and have zero incidents, what an incredible revelation.
Barbing 25 minutes ago [-]
They didn’t want to be down so bad they rented capacity from Elon and uptime improved dramatically. Super flaky before that, they were even playing games with response quality to lighten their load nontransparently. Not sure what the issue is today. But on average, past 90 days, good availability and quality right?
slopinthebag 51 minutes ago [-]
Everything is vibe coded, would you expect anything different?
alansaber 33 minutes ago [-]
Quick, release a new claude product then depricate it after 90 days
beredon 2 hours ago [-]
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cloveyxD 60 minutes ago [-]
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gagan2020 1 hours ago [-]
Mind you, They use latest Anthropic Claude models for programming. /s
rvz 56 minutes ago [-]
One of the Anthropic salesmen told everyone to use loops all over the place, auto mode and use Fable 5 and Opus 5 with multiple sub agents.
Then it seems they forgot about their own infrastructure which goes down once every two weeks.
Looks like most of all the engineering knowledge that was needed at Google was lost after the whole org at Anthropic is now vibing their work.
Rather than screaming “coding is solved!”, “AGI with a month” and spooking everyone with the bogus mysticism of “Mythos” which now everyone has an equivalent strong cyber model, maybe keep the lights on first before plotting the next doomsday story.
eru 43 minutes ago [-]
> Looks like most of all the engineering knowledge that was needed at Google was lost after the whole org at Anthropic is now vibing their work.
Sorry, what does Google have to do with Anthropic's outage?
hyperionultra 1 hours ago [-]
Lately Dario has to many bad news from customer side. Of course there is no bad or good news, just marketing, but still…
Bedrock has been fine throughout today; just pick two providers and you have much more stable Claude :)
Also, sometimes older models work fine, Opus 4.8/4.6/4.5 are worth trying.
Being charitable to Anthropic though: coding is sort of solved for a very limited definition of “solved”.
Software engineering of huge distributed systems at massive scale is very much not solved, and it seems Anthropic don’t have the human capital to do it particularly well
I really want to support Anthropic because of their commitments to effective altruism, but it's getting harder and harder to justify on technical merits. Sol is just faster, cheaper, and more reliable, and as good as Opus for my use cases
If you're really committed to the ideas of EA, shouldn't you dispassionately select whatever model works best for you, then make as much money as possible using that and donate it? :)
They are doing the opposite while saying the other. Zero trust about that. They are using every malicious playbook tactic these days to increase users and be more profitable and lock-in the users. Even OpenAI feels better these days.
That's a downside if anything.
Others think the sheer number of potential sentients in the future justify any amount of suffering tolerated in the here and now.
Notably, people in the latter group never assume THEY will be the ones suffering for the future.
What makes you think so? What evidence do you have?
> Yes, some people think effective altruism means helping people here and now as efficiently as possible.
Most effective altruists seem pretty relaxed about the 'here' part, but you are right that the 'now' part receives different answers from different subgroups.
> Others think the sheer number of potential sentients in the future justify any amount of suffering tolerated in the here and now.
There's also the people who care a lot about shrimp. They are less crazy than it seems at first.
Having your infrastructure at the knife's edge of load to capacity also means you have no redundancy when something fails.
My other guess is they are scheduling training runs and their capacity isolation is bad.
Then it seems they forgot about their own infrastructure which goes down once every two weeks.
Looks like most of all the engineering knowledge that was needed at Google was lost after the whole org at Anthropic is now vibing their work.
Rather than screaming “coding is solved!”, “AGI with a month” and spooking everyone with the bogus mysticism of “Mythos” which now everyone has an equivalent strong cyber model, maybe keep the lights on first before plotting the next doomsday story.
Sorry, what does Google have to do with Anthropic's outage?