Other areas of the world have had similar responses to foreign commercial fishing:
>> In Southeast Asia, as competition for fish and other maritime resources intensified following the Asian Financial Crisis in 1997-1998, increases in industrial fish catch volumes by foreign fleets led to sharp increases in South China Sea pirate attacks organized by residents of villages reliant on small-scale fisheries
>> Piracy is a growing concern in Sierra Leone, particularly in the northern maritime areas. Foreign trawlers have been attacked and robbed of both their catch and personal effects. Most of the pirates are reported to be from Guinea.
However, there is evidence that piracy is more likely to exist in places where illegal fishing has declined. (With the disclaimer that "this research does not refute the earlier-held notion that foreign trawlers produce dissatisfied local fishers who turn towards piracy as a defense against foreign intruders."
> We should have empathy for Somali Pirates because some of they may have initially acted to protect their marine resources?
Who said that? You seem to have made that up and got mad about it.
rightnutwingjob 20 hours ago [-]
What is the title of the article we are discuss here?
Retric 19 hours ago [-]
That does not require empathy. Facts are useful independent of your ethical framework.
If your goal was to kill all former pirates you’d want to know their professional background and likely current occupation.
Similarly a ruthless dictator who wants to end piracy should understand all tools at their disposal.
Ignorance is simply a detriment for efficiency. Though obviously if you want to exploit someone else it’s useful for them to be ignorant, which helps explain your own failings.
krapp 20 hours ago [-]
Name definitely checks out.
rightnutwingjob 20 hours ago [-]
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bigstrat2003 19 hours ago [-]
I'm not saying he was in the right, but calling people nutjobs (even indirectly) is in pretty flagrant violation of the rules. Don't flame people just because they are making bad posts.
mohamedkoubaa 19 hours ago [-]
My Somali friend calls them the coastguard (half jokingly)
Incipient 13 hours ago [-]
Honestly if Somali pirates legitimately only attacked foreign fishing vessels breaching their sovereign borders - good for them! (I mean, it's quite brutal, but don't fish in someone else's water).
However, Somali pirates attack pretty much anyone, even those not disrespecting their sovereignty, which is less cool.
frugalmail 19 hours ago [-]
That's why they pirated so many Chinese ships right?
IncreasePosts 21 hours ago [-]
No, the pirates are organized crime syndicates. They are not the same people who were fishing the waters 35 years ago
pythonic_hell 20 hours ago [-]
Perhaps they’re pirates because there are no other ways to maintain a living. Like fishing?
what 18 hours ago [-]
What’s stopping them from fishing?
actionfromafar 2 hours ago [-]
Foreign trawlers stealing the fish.
IncreasePosts 19 hours ago [-]
No, it's literally different people
rayiner 20 hours ago [-]
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ceejayoz 20 hours ago [-]
> Another alternative is one that the United States and other western states are
reluctant to endorse: encouraging Sharia courts inside the clan territories. Islamic Sharia
courts could be a useful, vital instrument in combating piracy.
Yiiiikes.
rayiner 16 hours ago [-]
You understand Islamic law was a huge advance in the territories where it took hold, right?
ceejayoz 2 hours ago [-]
I understand that Al-Shabaab funds itself via piracy.
As the Taliban funded itself with heroin in Afghanistan.
readthenotes1 21 hours ago [-]
And then they turn to piracy for its own sake because they realized how lucrative it was
rsalus 19 hours ago [-]
Besides being obviously AI editorialized, the idea that a few fishing boats were the reason Somali piracy stopped and not because of an international coalition of navies is... quite a stretch.
mikeatlas 21 hours ago [-]
> Both things can be true.
Ughhh I hear this like 5x a day now. It's the new emdashery.
phoghed 20 hours ago [-]
Damn shame how often people need to be reminded of this, I agree
BoorishBears 19 hours ago [-]
It's actually pretty rare people need to be reminded of this because it's self-evident and platitudinous.
Much more commonly, the statement is used by writers who want to wax poetic without actually having to commit to any meaningful position on the topic at hand... which is exactly how the AI-written article in question uses it.
phoghed 18 hours ago [-]
We must not read the same internets
helpfulclippy 20 hours ago [-]
Unless someone is a structural engineer or something, I never want to hear the term "load-bearing" again.
victorhooi 20 hours ago [-]
Aha...gold star =)...10 points to Gryffindor....well played, Sir.
esafak 20 hours ago [-]
Por qué no...
volcomy 19 hours ago [-]
Fighting piracy with a supply chain is the most sushi-chef approach imaginable.
XuxOp 19 hours ago [-]
555
Gensui 20 hours ago [-]
Based on my research, he did not actually go to Somalia, but rather to the neighboring Republic of Djibouti.
At the time, Somalia was extremely dangerous and under strict travel restrictions.
Therefore, he established a base in Djibouti, which was relatively safe and hosted a Japan Self-Defense Forces base.
He then invited former pirates and fishermen from the surrounding areas to that location.
In reality, his approach was to provide indirect support through fishing equipment and technical training.
Gensui 21 hours ago [-]
The reason President Kimura helped the Somali pirates is that he himself is a “man who has overcome adversity”—having lost his father at a young age and struggled financially, and having hit rock bottom during the collapse of the economic bubble.
He came to deeply empathize with them after learning that the pirates were not vicious criminals, but “former fishermen who, due to civil war and poverty, had no choice but to risk their lives as pirates just to survive.”
Driven by his innate “profound kindness that won’t let him ignore people in distress” and his “overwhelming drive to take action—even donning a bulletproof vest himself to enter dangerous areas”—he engaged in direct dialogue with the pirate leaders and provided them with tuna fishing techniques and boats as a means of survival.
It was not just his own self-interest, but a down-to-earth love for humanity—a desire for “everyone involved to be happy”—and an incredibly positive outlook that led him to believe “the problem can be solved by changing the system,” even in situations where anyone else would have given up.
These qualities gave rise to this miraculous initiative.
It'd be nice if the article linked to the sources. There's very little substance in this article.
>> Illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing by foreign fishing vessels in Somali waters has been problematic for decades .
>> The central government collapsed in 1991, and the ensuing increase in foreign fishing became a justification for piracy against fishing vessels.
(https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/marine-science/articles...)
Other areas of the world have had similar responses to foreign commercial fishing:
>> In Southeast Asia, as competition for fish and other maritime resources intensified following the Asian Financial Crisis in 1997-1998, increases in industrial fish catch volumes by foreign fleets led to sharp increases in South China Sea pirate attacks organized by residents of villages reliant on small-scale fisheries
(https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...)
>> Piracy is a growing concern in Sierra Leone, particularly in the northern maritime areas. Foreign trawlers have been attacked and robbed of both their catch and personal effects. Most of the pirates are reported to be from Guinea.
(https://wikileaks.jcvignoli.com/cable_09FREETOWN258)
However, there is evidence that piracy is more likely to exist in places where illegal fishing has declined. (With the disclaimer that "this research does not refute the earlier-held notion that foreign trawlers produce dissatisfied local fishers who turn towards piracy as a defense against foreign intruders."
(https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096262982...)
Maybe read the first paragraph
Does this apply to the illegal fishing fleets, too?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_industry_in_China
> The Chinese commercial fishing fleet is responsible for more illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing than that of any other nation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal,_unreported_and_unregu...
Why not?
Who said that? You seem to have made that up and got mad about it.
If your goal was to kill all former pirates you’d want to know their professional background and likely current occupation.
Similarly a ruthless dictator who wants to end piracy should understand all tools at their disposal.
Ignorance is simply a detriment for efficiency. Though obviously if you want to exploit someone else it’s useful for them to be ignorant, which helps explain your own failings.
However, Somali pirates attack pretty much anyone, even those not disrespecting their sovereignty, which is less cool.
Yiiiikes.
https://www.reuters.com/article/somalia-piracy-idUSLDE7650U3...
As the Taliban funded itself with heroin in Afghanistan.
Ughhh I hear this like 5x a day now. It's the new emdashery.
Much more commonly, the statement is used by writers who want to wax poetic without actually having to commit to any meaningful position on the topic at hand... which is exactly how the AI-written article in question uses it.
At the time, Somalia was extremely dangerous and under strict travel restrictions.
Therefore, he established a base in Djibouti, which was relatively safe and hosted a Japan Self-Defense Forces base.
He then invited former pirates and fishermen from the surrounding areas to that location.
In reality, his approach was to provide indirect support through fishing equipment and technical training.
He came to deeply empathize with them after learning that the pirates were not vicious criminals, but “former fishermen who, due to civil war and poverty, had no choice but to risk their lives as pirates just to survive.”
Driven by his innate “profound kindness that won’t let him ignore people in distress” and his “overwhelming drive to take action—even donning a bulletproof vest himself to enter dangerous areas”—he engaged in direct dialogue with the pirate leaders and provided them with tuna fishing techniques and boats as a means of survival.
It was not just his own self-interest, but a down-to-earth love for humanity—a desire for “everyone involved to be happy”—and an incredibly positive outlook that led him to believe “the problem can be solved by changing the system,” even in situations where anyone else would have given up.
These qualities gave rise to this miraculous initiative.